On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:25:18 -0800 Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well, yes, but only because you shifted the entire terms of the thread > without telling anyone else. All of the above - about how the idea was > to build packages with untrusted build dependencies in trustworthy > places - may have been perfectly clear _to you_, but it was not the > idea that started this thread. This thread was specifically about > creating a 'cloud', containing random contributor's machines, for > doing builds, and several people suggested that might be 'safe' for > scratch builds but not for 'release' builds. I didn't shift the terms. I've been consistent. Random machine instances from volunteers are a non-starter. > You seem to have changed the terms of debate rather considerably with > your _own_ idea, which you introduced into the thread, but which > clearly was not actually very similar at all to the idea of the > person who actually started the thread, Denis Arnaud. The extent of > the difference between what _he_ was thinking/talking about and what > _you_ are thinking/talking about has only been made clear in this > last post of yours. I answered Denis immediately at the first post and he concurred it was a problem. I like to think the conversation evolved as we discussed. > The other thing that's confusing is your use of 'wherever' and > 'anywhere' when talking about where the builds take place: > > "ec2 or rax or wherever" > "scratch or personal chainbuilds could be built in ec2 or rax or > anywhere w/o an issue" > ec2 or rax, I'm fine with. 'anywhere' or 'wherever', I'm not fine > with. I'm guessing, now you've explained things a bit better, that by > 'anywhere' or 'wherever' you really mean 'in any reasonably > trustworthy cloud', but that's not what you actually _said_, nor was > that meaning particularly apparent. I actually said in any cloud instance where you have a contractual (read financial) relationship. I made that pretty clear. -sv -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel