On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 08:44 +0100, David Tardon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:03:16PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 21:58 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > > With the above information what benefits/value will we have by having > > > proven tester over fas tester hitting the panic button > > > ( since no addinal testing is being performed by the proven tester over > > > fas-tester thus it makes no difference if fas-tester or proven tester > > > hits the panic button) > > > > The proposal is to treat a PT hitting the panic button even more > > dramatically than a registered user hitting it, the idea being that PTs > > should be somewhat better informed and hence less likely to trigger it > > falsely, and that we have the mechanism to withdraw PT privileges, so if > > a PT does trigger, say, two false alarms, we can simply make them not a > > PT any more. It's much more of a drastic step to revoke someone's FAS > > account. > > I'm a bit concerned about the fact that we seem to put an equality sign > between "proventester" and "knowledgeable user of the package in > question". I'm not entirely sure where you got that idea, as nothing in the text you quoted actually says that. It's all to do with the availability of regulatory measures. > IOW, how a membership in some group makes one know what is > needed to test a random package? Well, for a start, that's a bizarre way to phrase an argument. 'How do the letters BSc after one's name magically bestow knowledge'? The answer is that they don't: you have the cause and effect mixed up. You get the magic letters _after_ you do the learning. If we were using proventesters the way you suggest, then one would get the proventesters membership _as a consequence_ of the knowledge. Not vice versa. Even if it weren't irrelevant, your argument is an absurd one. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel