>> * What if there are two layers of users that need to be rebuilt? >> >> The delays just pile one upon another... > > You can update rawhide at any time and accomplish that work without > delays. Then it shows up in the next Fedora version. > Yes, but then we have align the schedules, so have a new gnome release in good time before a new fedora release tree is forked and when a new Fedora GA is released, it will be close to the next Gnome release and Fedora will not be the latest and greatest. As an example i was hit by the latest gnome 3.2 pre-release in Rawhide and F16 in awn-extras-applets, there contains a lot of applets to awn written in C, Python & Vala with a lot of different requirements to all kind of different gnome stuff (fx. gnome-menu 2.0) this was bumped to 3.0 and some python binding disappeared. It will take me 2-3 weeks before figure out how to work around the issues, remove stuff there can't be fixed and get into updates-testing and to stable. Lucky for me, nothing depends on awn-extras-applets, but users will have problems updating to the new gnome packages without removing the awn-extras-applets package. This is not ideal between alpha and beta, but it the way things goes, if we want to have the latest gnome close to the fedora release. Tim -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel