Le lundi 12 septembre 2011 à 09:57 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit : > In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release > jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are > using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level of > pain does someone like Jonathan Corbet expect and how can we better > serve them? [And no this isnt me trying for another distro quote of > the week, he is just my reference point of someone I know who runs > rawhide day in and out.] I'd expect apps to works, with breakage limited to non-mainstream or brand-new options (in other words app crash on startup = no good, some feature not baked yet = why not) When there is breakage, I expect to have someone benefit from the breakage inflicted to me. That means abrt and sealert *must* work 100% of the time in rawhide and maintainers *must* look at problem reports (if only to indicate workarounds). There is nothing more depressing than spending time fighting a problem to see no one cares and there is no way to report it, or having the same app crash for months in a row (I'm thinking about you empathy) When rawhide crashes too much I spend all my time repairing it which means I have no time left for my other Fedora activities. After a while I don't have the energy to check if it's still broken I just procastinate and push tasks to the next week. It's easy to get into the habit of not caring when others do not care about you. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
