On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:34:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 20:59 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:42:56PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > > As in components flagged as base/core/critical might restrict the > > > maintainer from +1 his own component and require more stricter QA > > > oversight while components that are not flag as base/core/critical might > > > not? > > > > If a +1 from a maintainer is counted for the stable update threshold > > than the policy could just be changed to allow maintainers to push > > updates directly to stable. Because this is what will be possible, only > > that a lot of stupid interaction with Bodhi will be required. But it > > would fit the current policy that does not state clearly that any update > > submitter is allowed to push a non critpath update to stable as soon as > > the update received at least one +1 from anyone. > > We're going round in circles again, as I know I've written this at least > twice in the previous threads on the topic, but: no. What Bodhi adds to > the process is accountability, an audit trail, and an easy way to manage > privileges. If we keep the Bodhi thresholds but allow maintainers to +1 > their own updates, it makes it very very easy to look at a hyopthetical > future problematic update and say 'look, you +1ed this update which was > clearly broken, it went out, and caused pain to users: your +1 > privileges are revoked', and actually do that, without affecting other > maintainers who are following the rules. If we just let everyone push > straight to stable, we lose that. It is easy to go in circles if everyone is using "+1" with a different meaning. If you read carefully what I quoted you will notice that I quoted a proposal to allow +1 comments only from submitters for non critpath updates. If we use your meaning of "+1 comments from submitters" this means that the proposal is to add an audit trail only for non critpath updates. I am pretty sure that you do not mean this. So your proposal is probably to allow +1 comments from submitters, but do not use it to calculate the karma value of an update. But this is a technical detail. Even with allowing a direct push to stable instead of using a complex karma calculation formula you will have an audit trail in Bodhi, because Bodhi creates a comment about this as well. And you can as well revoke the direct-push-to-stabe direct-push-to-stabe feature from misbehaving maintainers. Kind regards Till
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