Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

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On 10:55 Fri 29 Jul     , Deepak Bhole wrote:
> * Omair Majid <omajid@xxxxxxxxxx> [2011-07-29 10:32]:
> > On 07/25/2011 04:04 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote:
> > >* Bill Nottingham<notting@xxxxxxxxxx>  [2011-07-25 15:54]:
> > >>Toshio Kuratomi (a.badger@xxxxxxxxx) said:
> > >>>Robyn and I have talked about how the feature process could be adapted to
> > >>>allow for more late work to occur however none of that talk has turned into
> > >>>anything solid yet.  One point that bears on this is that the Feature Owners
> > >>>must be willing to commit to doing all the work involved in coordination
> > >>>when they submit something late.  In other words, if Java 7 update went in
> > >>>well before the feature deadline, the expectation would be that packagers
> > >>>whose packages depended on Java would need to adapt to Java 7.  The
> > >>>expectation now that the Feature Freeze has passed is that the people
> > >>>pushing Java 7 into the repos would also need to seek out and fix all the
> > >>>packages that depend on them that are broken.
> > >>
> > >>Would we actually be shipping only 7, or both 6 and 7?
> > >>
> > >
> > >This hasn't been debated yet, but I am very much in favour of having
> > >only 7 in Fedora 16.
> > >
> > >If the reason for asking was w.r.t re-builds, it is unlikely that most
> > >applications will need a rebuild -- only those using deprecated APIs
> > >(which would have been deprecated for years now) and private APIs would
> > >be affected. That would likely be a small subset.
> > 
> > Have you seen the list of incompatibilities?
> > 
> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/compatibility-417013.html
> > 
> 
> Thanks. I hadn't seen the full list, but I knew it'd fairly small
> given how much importance compatibility has been given in the past and
> for 7.
> 
> Unfortunately it is not possible to gauge how much Fedora will be
> affected by that :/ My biggest concern would be for apps using sun.*
> APIs. As mentioned above though, it should be a small percentage.
> 

The old com.sun jpeg libraries would be the obvious ones to spring to mind.

Whatever list Oracle has come up with doesn't really compare to real-world
use and testing.

I think we should offer both in F16.

> Cheers,
> Deepak
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