Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

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* Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> [2011-07-23 20:03]:
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Just something I wanted to bring to attention:
> > 
> > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate)
> > on 28 July, 2011.
> > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora
> > 16 release, and the months between Java's release and Fedora 16's 25
> > October release would allow plenty of time to integrate Java 7. If I'm
> > not mistaken, if Java 7 isn't released this time around, it won't be
> > in Fedora until the Fedora 17 release rolls around, nearly a year (!)
> > after Java 7 is released.
> > 
> > I created an unfinished, skeletal feature page here:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7
> > Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to help build it. I'm
> > announcing it here in case whoever maintains Java 6 in Fedora, or
> > someone else, is interested.
> >

I was planning to do this myself .. glad you started it :) I can take
over the Feature and doing all the work if you're fine with it...

> The alpha change deadline is a week and three days away so this is very
> likely too late.  If you want to try to get an exception to get this in, you
> need to get the Java SIG excited to do it, get the Feature page finished
> (with estimates of how much time it will take to finish and who will do the
> work) and put it before FESCo/Feature Wrangler to see if they'll grant an
> exception.
> 
> Judging by the state things are in now, I don't know that it looks too
> hopeful unless you get some Java SIG people to commit to working on it.
> 

This is doable by the Alpha deadline. The main holdup for us has been a
lack of OpenJDK TCK for v7. The actual RPM can be written fairly
quickly. We were hopeful that we'd be able to push a more tested initial
version. But given the deadlines, it appears we will have to push
whatever we have right now and modify/fix it as needed when we have the
TCK.

Cheers,
Deepak

> Maybe a better idea would be to try to make your contingency plan into
> a Fedora 16 feature and Java 7 as default for all of our java applications
> a Fedora 17 feature (that would still need a fesco exception for a late
> feature but if the Java 7 stack didn't affect the rest of the software on
> the system, it would largely be a Feature needing release notes instad of
> a feature needing coordination between maintainers.  Those are easier to
> grant exceptions for.)
> 
> -Toshio



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