On 7/13/11 9:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace >>> existing and over a long time well working things - never! >> >> You might have said the same thing about ext4 in F<whatever it was> >> and yet, here we are, shipping it as default for many releases now, with >> little trouble. > > ext4 is not written from scratch and it is a hughe difference > if we are speaking from a improvement of ext2/ext3 with many > years history on all sorts of setups (desktop, server, notebook) I am well aware of how ext4 was written, and believe me, there is a TON of new code in there, from the allocator to the writeback paths to the on-disk format. ext4 has almost doubled ext3 in line count. Something tells me if btrfs had been called "ext5" people would just nod their heads and move on. ;) > the troubles of lost kde settings was enough on crashes and yes > i had the luck of a system-disk hangig some times exactly as > this was discussed in a way "POSIX do not say what exactly > happens after that, it says only the FS must be clean and > not what data are there or not" Well, posix specifies what happens when you _sync_, but we can't control sloppy applications which do not perform these data integrity calls. > virtual machines this time are really a normal thing and if > there are hughe troubles now a FS should NOT be DEFAULT in a > few months - why everytime this hurry? jesus one of the biggest > benefits of open source is that there ar eno marketing idiots > with release plans which forcing a release without enough testing As has been said, if it's not ready, if there are instabilities or serious deficiencies, it won't go. -Eric > so why do we not need this benefits and fire out permanently > new technologies in a not understandable hurry? > > -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel