On 06/29/2011 02:07 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 09:59 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >>> >>> Le Lun 27 juin 2011 15:12, Miloslav Trmač a écrit : >>> >>>> Placing trust in the manufacturer of the hardware puts the user in no >>>> worse position than they were before. >>> >>> I don't call placing absolute vetting power in bios writer hands "no worse >>> position". I don't thing anyone can point to a "good" bios on real world >>> hardware. >> >> I appreciate the disdain - no, really, trust me, I do - but you should >> realize that SMM means you already may have no control over the machine. > > Well, the fact that BIOSes aren't open source means that anyway. As far > as we the users are concerned, the BIOS is black box code which runs > with the ultimate in administrative privileges. That's not as true as it used to be: https://edk2.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/edk2/trunk/edk2/ Most system vendors that ship this still have a bizarre belief that some drivers should remain proprietary, but other than that many are shipping fairly pristine checkouts. -- Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel