ok folks. I don't think anyone is gaining much value from this thread anymore. Can we move it on to: a) bug reports. If you have found a bug, file it and work it with the maintainer. b) users list. If you are running into a problem with a current fedora release doing something. As far as f15 goes: file bugs and get LSB headers/systemd fixed. As far as rawhide goes, please convert your services to unit files. :) Thanks, kevin
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