On 08:17:24 AM Tuesday, June 21, 2011 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 21.06.2011 01:44, schrieb Adam Williamson: > >> so where was the QA before the release which forbids fix the release? > > > > Well, a few things: > > > > There's no planned testing of mysql prior to release. QA does not have > > the resources to test every feature of Fedora; what gets tested are > > things that are critical to the basic functionality of the system, which > > does not include mysql > > this is not needed > > seeing that most services are not prividing systemd-files should > be reason enough to supsend the release or schedule systemd for F16 > > the other option had been one or two deadlines for packagers > to provide native systemd-services with much more pressure than happended I wonder how could someone would put a deadline on volunteers? You can't :). How would you make someone provide systemd-services if he/she doesn't have a systemd machine to play with? You can't :). Why does pretty much every significant project switched to time-based releases instead of feature-based? Because that's the only sensible way you can deliver smth to your users. And yes I think that systemd was ready but there was no way to get every service converted before it is in a released versions packagers can work with. Regards, Alex -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel