On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:54:38PM +0200, Aaron Sowry wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:03:05AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > > Your point about column headers is taken (explicitly, in my mail) and > > bears no more repeating since there's a bug about it. > > I didn't realise there was a bug for this, which is it? You alluded to RH #713567 in [1], so I assumed that bug had this point in it. Re-reading it, it does. > > Your point about paging continues to be that you don't like it for the > > purist reason that unix-y tools shouldn't format their output. > > This is not just purism for purism's sake. You said tools paging their tty-destined output "irked the crap"[1] out of you and didn't otherwise disagree that other tools do this (and other things) based on tty-ness. I'm not sure I was wrong to read that as a purist's lament given the additional code is trivial in length. > I think the point is being lost here somewhere. > [original paging-takes-code point] > [new points objecting to paging] The original point and new points you just applied to the irkesome behaviour are simply not compelling: that 50+ lines of pager-related C is somehow a fearsome vector for terrible bugs and must be excised or that the year-old chosen defaults for a new command can be changed with flags somehow impose a crippling learning curve. Especially, given (like I said) the precedents and utility of the defaults (which you didn't argue with[2]). > /Aaron Martin 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-June/152993.html 2. You said[3] you disputed the utility of paging-by-default, which is the behaviour I praised, and that I missed your dispute as to its utility in [1], but, no, actually, you gave no reasons why it wasn't useful in [1]. You just said it irked you, had a real danger of scary bugs, and had a bug when no pager was present, none of which are arguments for uselessness. 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-June/152997.html
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