On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:16:35PM +0200, Aaron Sowry wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to discuss the behaviour of systemctl. See RH bug 713567 > for context. To summarise: > > - 'systemctl --all' pages by default when the output is to tty. This > consumes 50-60+ lines of potentially bug-prone code, and irks the > crap out of me as a system administrator. systemctl's jurisdiction > ends at stdout. As you point out, git-log and --help do this too. It's excellent. Make it configurable if you must, but I'd be interested to think why you think it's not always the useful thing to do. > All of these peculiarities stem from poor UNIX programming > practise. Do not try to make decisions for me as a user (especially > not based on output channels), about how I want my output formatted. grep has had --color=auto for almost ten years[1]. > No other Linux/UNIX tools make this assumption (with perhaps the > exception of git-log et. al.) git and grep alone are a pretty significant set of tools, and I bet there are others. I agree with the rest of your objections about inconsistencies and mistaken error handling. But the ship has sailed on stdout-is-tty being an acceptable default driver of different output formatting. Martin 1. http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/grep/grep/src/grep.c?view=diff&r1=1.69&r2=1.70
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