On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For more 'advanced' users, the keyboard shortcuts are there, and you're > probably going to want to use them if you don't want to gnaw your own > legs off out of boredom. No, they're not particularly discoverable: it's > very difficult to design an interface which makes keyboard shortcuts > discoverable without pissing you off once you know them. I mean, when > have keyboard shortcuts ever been discoverable? Is alt-tab discoverable? > Is alt-f4? No. We just pick them up somewhere and learn them. is everything that gnome shell can do exposed as a non-keyboard interactions? Can you describe to me how I get the screencasting utility to start and stop recording without using a keyboard shortcut? There's no evidence of that functionality is in the discoverable UI. I can forgive the Alt to poweroff because poweroff is still exposed in the login screen as a non-keyboard interaction option...so it's still exposed as a pointing device only feature in the expected interaction model of the overall system. But the screencaster utility isn't exposed a a discoverable pointing device interaction in the UI itself anywhere as far as I can tell..and that makes me marginally grumpy. But not as grumpy as the choice to use a 4 finger salute to activate it via the keyboard. If you want to ensure a 75% occurrence rate of fat-finger execution error...require 4 simultaneous key presses. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel