On 06/11/2011 05:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists > to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no > punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for syste That is a gross over simplification. Fedora is just one of the many distros integrating systemd and there are developers from other distros including Novell involved in systemd and contributing to it. If we start discussing every project where Red Hat is heaving involved, that list is long > [1] Yes he spoke with another distro - but no-one is using it. So its a > fedora only project until its picked up somewhere else - which has not > happened yet. That's not true. Mandriva 2011 is already including it by default. So is MeeGo. OpenSUSE has announced that it is using it by default in their next release. Not to mention other distros who have included it in their repos. It is far from a Fedora only project. The proper place for general discussions about systemd is http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel Only Fedora specific bugs should be discussed here. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel