Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

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On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


> what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its
> upstream mailing list.  Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. 
> 
> Rahul

  Beg to differ - rather vehemently too - politely but vehemently.

  systemd is only available in fedora[1] - we are the test pigs for
better or for worse - and there are most certainly bugs in fedora's systemd.

  Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists
to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no
punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for systemd.

  Some bugs like sendmail failing to start have been there since
September 2010 ( almost 9 months ... ) - people are reporting the same
issue on F15 in the fedora lists  ... who is fixing this stuff ?

 e.g.

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633774


  Ok so he's on vacation - this is a very core part of the OS - who is
backing him up I wonder? Who else is on the project?

  Surely you're not saying there is no-one else working on systemd...
and when LP is away/busy nothing will get done ... otherwise I strongly
urge it be replaced by upstart asap.



 gene/


[1] Yes he spoke with another distro - but no-one is using it. So its a
fedora only project until its picked up somewhere else - which has not
happened yet.
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