On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its > upstream mailing list. Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. > > Rahul Beg to differ - rather vehemently too - politely but vehemently. systemd is only available in fedora[1] - we are the test pigs for better or for worse - and there are most certainly bugs in fedora's systemd. Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for systemd. Some bugs like sendmail failing to start have been there since September 2010 ( almost 9 months ... ) - people are reporting the same issue on F15 in the fedora lists ... who is fixing this stuff ? e.g. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633774 Ok so he's on vacation - this is a very core part of the OS - who is backing him up I wonder? Who else is on the project? Surely you're not saying there is no-one else working on systemd... and when LP is away/busy nothing will get done ... otherwise I strongly urge it be replaced by upstart asap. gene/ [1] Yes he spoke with another distro - but no-one is using it. So its a fedora only project until its picked up somewhere else - which has not happened yet. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel