On 04/29/2011 11:05 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:14 AM, John Keller <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Right now the only options, to my knowledge, are to use the netinst >> (hybrid image) or use some special tool/process to convert the DVD ISO >> into a bootable USB key. The former can be flaky (as you mention) and >> the latter is cumbersome (and has the drawback of essentially testing >> something different than the actual DVD image). >> >> Would hybrid DVD ISOs be feasible going forward? > > I use livecd-iso-to-disk (regularly and frequently), to make a > bootable USB key for the DVD isos to do installs - it just works - > > I am puzzled as to why there is perceived to be a need to have > additional tools or additional hybrid isos? I certainly wasn't asking for additional tools, in fact I think livecd-iso-to-disk already qualifies as one. :-) I was asking for two reasons: One, convenience; two, portability. Yes, the tools used on Fedora "just work" if you already run a Fedora system. But if you use a different distro, the same tools are usually unavailable or don't work with the installed libraries. It's hard to get more universal than a simple "dd". A third reason came to me while writing the email you quote, but don't seem to address: When using anything but "dd", you're essentially testing something different than the ISO (since, as I understand it, tools like livecd-iso-to-disk create their own initrd). If a hybrid were created, we'd be testing the image as-is, without having to burn a disc. - John -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel