On Thu, 14.04.11 20:35, Miloslav TrmaÄ (mitr@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Lennart Poettering > <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 14.04.11 13:05, Chris Adams (cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> Since they are config files (unlike the init scripts themselves), > >> changing them doesn't leave you with RPM wanting to replace them on > >> every package update either. > > > > Yupp, and this is much much prettier in systemd. After you copied the > > service file from /lib to /etc they are out of the package manager > > territory and will always override what has been configured by the > > distro packager. > Separating the program that integrates software into the distribution > (/etc/init.d/*) and user's configuration that is managed via > .rpm{save,new} is actually valuable. > > If upstream changes how the program should be invoked and the Fedora > packager updates /etc/init.d/*, this change is transparent to users, > as long as the chang doesn't affect the specifics of user's > configuration in /etc/sysconfig - and even if it does, the user has > .rpm{save,new} and can figure out what has happened. Well, the simple fact is that systemd unit files aren't really code. They are just config. So doing code updates on a sysv init script does not really translate to systemd, because there is nothing to update. > Copying the service file from /lib to /etc seems to lose this property > - if the /etc file "hides" the /lib file, the service will just break > with no indication that something needs to be updated. Or does > systemd support "inheritance" of configuration from /lib to /etc so > that the user can only make the minimal changes necessary? Yes, you can use ".include /lib/systemd/system/foo.service" to import another file, and then override selected settings. Note however that while some settings override others some act as additions. Example: A later User=foo will override an earlier User=bar, but a later Requires=foo will be added to an earlier Requires=bar, so that you effectively have "Requires=foo bar". But I think it's kinda obvious in most cases which settings are those with work as an addition and which ones override. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel