On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 12:49 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:24:42AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 09:35 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > > > > > Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see > > > everyone equally follow suit on the way things are traditionally done > > > in Fedora land. > > > > Well, up to a point, Lord Copper. We have a features process with lots > > of bureaucracy and FESCo involvement and so on. What we don't have is > > any clear _enforcement_ of that process; there's no workable system that > > evaluates changes and requires sufficiently significant changes to be > > submitted as features. It's perfectly possible, and has been done lots > > of times, to simply go ahead and commit significant changes that _could_ > > have been 'features', not submit them as features, and happily bypass > > the entire 'feature' process with all its bureaucracy. /run would > > certainly not be close to being the first time this has happened. > <SNIP> > > So we should disband FESCo and just let everyone commit whatever changes > they want without oversight or community inclusion and just hope it builds > and runs in the end? > > I can't stress this enough, I am not against this change and am actually in > support of it. I am also a big fan of systemd and want to express my gratitude > to those involved in all the work being done to make it a reality. I am, > however, a little concerned with the precedence it is either creating or > following in the path of. No, not really. I'm just pointing out that this isn't a _new_ problem, and it should probably be addressed on a wider scale than just squelching this particular change because it hasn't jumped through the (arguably) appropriate hoops. (I think Lennart's argument that in technical terms it's not actually a very big change has merit, too, given that we're not symlinking /var/run yet.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
