On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 03:59:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 15:53 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > I don't really see any reason why *everyone* who's a packager shouldn't > > > also have signed up to be a proven tester by now. I'd like to ask if > > > anyone has a perception that it's a hard process to get involved in, or > > > if they got the impression that they *shouldn't* get engaged in it, or > > > something like that. Maybe we can improve the presentation to make it > > > clear that this really ought to be a very wide-based process. > > > > > With that in mind, perhaps we should have being added to the packager group > > automatically put you in the proventester group. If you turn out to be > > a problem we can then remove you from the proventester group until you've > > learned how you should be testing. (On the implementation side, we should > > have this ability in fas since we do something similar to put people who > > sign the cla into the cla_done group automatically). > > I'm not sure I'd want to go quite that far unless the sign-up process > can wave the proven testers instructions in your face quite prominently. > They're short and easy to read and understand, but you can't infer them > from first principles: we do want to have people read the proven tester > instructions before becoming proven testers. That's actually the *only* > requirement to become a proven tester. :) > We don't have an automated process for showing people the rest of the wiki pages with packager information either. If we added the information to this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process after step #9, 'Request updates for Fedora release branches, if necessary, using "fedpkg update" or another Bodhi interface as detailed in Bodhi Guide_.' would that be sufficient? It would be the same amount of information as the rest of the package process gets. Note that the lack of a link to the proventester information on that page is probably another reason that people (new people at least) don't know that they should join proventester. -Toshio
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