On Tue, 16.11.10 11:02, Josh Stone (jistone@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On 11/16/2010 09:14 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > This appears completely backwards to me. Attaching things like this to a > > TTY is just wrong, because normally we don't have a single TTY around on > > most graphical sessions. > > > > The kernel doesn't really have a notion of what a "session" is (only the > > audit subsystem kinda has), but if this grouping behaviour is supposed > > to be bound to a session, then attaching it to a TTY is a pretty shitty > > replacement. > > I think the TTY granularity for autogroups is *intentionally* finer than > session granularity, which is why Linus' running kbuild doesn't > interfere with the rest of his desktop. See my later "patch" for that. http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/330 > So if we confirm that this is a win, then I hope you also make sure that > systemd's grouping doesn't interfere with autogrouping benefits. That > could just mean that systemd explicitly does what autogroup is > implicitly doing. This autogrouping should just go away. I think it has little use on anything but machines of kernel hackers, and systemd would probably turn this off on boot fi this is compiled into the kernel. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel