On 11/16/2010 09:14 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > This appears completely backwards to me. Attaching things like this to a > TTY is just wrong, because normally we don't have a single TTY around on > most graphical sessions. > > The kernel doesn't really have a notion of what a "session" is (only the > audit subsystem kinda has), but if this grouping behaviour is supposed > to be bound to a session, then attaching it to a TTY is a pretty shitty > replacement. I think the TTY granularity for autogroups is *intentionally* finer than session granularity, which is why Linus' running kbuild doesn't interfere with the rest of his desktop. So if we confirm that this is a win, then I hope you also make sure that systemd's grouping doesn't interfere with autogrouping benefits. That could just mean that systemd explicitly does what autogroup is implicitly doing. Josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel