On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 17:25 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 10:23:22AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > > At which point, it's too late. Unless Server-y people > > I object strongly to this perception that nobody involved in developing > desktop technologies has any idea what server admins want. What we're > seeing is the development of technologies that bear little resemblance > to the Unix way of doing things, but which will in many cases make life > better for server admins. systemd is a wonderful example, and Wayland > has the potential to be used in such a way that it will work much better > for what you want than X currently does. I can agree with that. I'd like for something in return - could the folks working on desktop technologies acknowledge that those of us who are more server-oriented have an idea of what users want? B/c the perception I get is that only the desktop-oriented folks know what users want or need and the server-oriented folks do not. I think that's in error, too. -sv -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel