On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 10:23:22AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > At which point, it's too late. Unless Server-y people I object strongly to this perception that nobody involved in developing desktop technologies has any idea what server admins want. What we're seeing is the development of technologies that bear little resemblance to the Unix way of doing things, but which will in many cases make life better for server admins. systemd is a wonderful example, and Wayland has the potential to be used in such a way that it will work much better for what you want than X currently does. To put it plainly: we know that people use X remoting. We're not going to change the default to something that makes that use-case impossible. Nobody who has any understanding of any of this is suggesting that we do so. It would be *stupid* to do so. But if you're asking for something that's identical to what we currently have (a reliance on a protocol that has an irritating number of round trips for something as simple as a keypress) then you're not going to get it, any more than us still providing support for a.out applications. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel