On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Thomas Bendler <ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What does this mean, wait until Canoncial provides patches before taking a > look at interresting technologies? Or even better, don't use applications > where Canoncial don't provide patches? That means that a lot of application > can't be used in the future and I don't think that this is an useful > approach. Wait for Canonical? No of course not. I'm saying that for anyone who cares the history of the actual Wayland development tells a certain story of existing involvement in bringing the technology forward by a number of individuals, some of them active members of other upstream communities (and who just happen to be members of Fedora's development community as well). Work to make Wayland an integral part of the standard plumbing stack is already underway as part of substantiate upstream work with input from developers from this community. Anyone under the impression that somehow Shuttleworth's announcement is in any way significant outside the scope of Unity as a new and differentiated interface offering hasn't been watching what has already been going on. The head-down, nose-to-the-grindstone development work that has been going on as part of upstream interactions around Wayland and X and Qt and gtk has been going on and will continue to go on regardless of what Canonical does or does not do moving forward. The final packaging at the distribution level as a binary blob is literally the last 0.1% of the work going on to make it a usable piece of the technology plumbing. Once you look at the history, its obvious that things need a little more work, and its just as obvious that there is a real intention to see support for Wayland deeply integrated into upstream stacks suck as GNOME. It means that people associated with our development community are already working on it..well before the human hype machine decided to blog about it and bring up the visibility of the already ongoing effort. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel