On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:07:30PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 11:57:56AM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:11:22AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > > > Interesting move: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 > > > > > > Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the > > > right time getting involved in the discussion. > > > > > > http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ > > > > What's the implication for people who absolutely need to use > > X applications remotely? > > You can run an X server as a client of Wayland, so you should get full > compat with any existing X app usage. Similar to how you can run an X > server under OS-X or Win32. The situation on OS X is pretty sucky (and Win32 as well, but for many more reasons). Native OS X apps aren't network transparent. You just can't run them remotely at all without some horrible thing like VNC. X11 apps are second-class citizens, requiring longer start-up times, incompatible menus, poor cut and paste and poor font rendering. If we're advocating that situation, then this is a huge step backwards. Network transparency in particular is absolutely essential to me as a user. Stepping to a pre-Internet non-network-aware single user model is simply crazy. Nevertheless, no one has actually answered the question as to whether Wayland native apps are network transparent or not. Do they use the X protocol at all? $DISPLAY? (And I admit I ain't looked at the code to try to answer these questions either). Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
