On 04/11/10 06:56, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > For a bug that I can reproduce, the time it takes for me to fix it > might be comparable to the time it takes me to report it upstream and > get it fixed there. Maybe not something all users can do, write code? Should not be a barrier to using Linux, Fedora in particular. > > The extreme inefficiency comes from the bugs that I can't reproduce, > the upstream can't reproduce, and the user isn't responding. And this > happens *a lot*. Tell them so, ask them to go on the test list, user list: "Has X happended to you, bug ref soem url. Most of the time, they don't even put down the steps > to reproduce. Can we at least mandate including the steps to reproduce > in the ABRT reports? In many cases it may not be known by the user, booted up, there was a bug waiting for me in the abrt icon. Removing abrt, does not preclude the bug from happening, only the users knowledge that it happened. Sent by a general user (learning some code). -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel