Peter Lemenkov, Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:22:24 +0400: > Unfortunately you're talking (and the rest Fedora Mozilla team) about BTW, just as a way of clarification, my rant was not targeted specifically at you, but everybody (and it is currently a big fashion) ranting against âproprietaryâ MoFo. No personal offense was meant. Sorry, if it sounded so. > different task - you're talking about fixing Mozilla upstream product > while I'm talking about fixing Fedora bugs. No one from community is > allowed to fix Mozilla in Fedora. That's why it's absolutely > unmaintainable. Yes, it is a problem, but I am quite sure, if you talk with me and point to something important, I will make sure Martin & co. knows about it. > Read it again - we can't fix mozilla products in Fedora. Theoretically > we could send patches to MoFo, but some of them will be rejected due to > political reasons (see links in this thread for their recent decision No need to call it âpolitical reasonsâ (on the side of MoFo) ... nowhere in the definition of free software is written, that upstream has to accept your patches. It may happen upstream (any upstream) disagrees with your patch, you may not agree with them, but in the end it is their decision and if you don't agree you can either suck it up or fork. Both alternatives are still freely open for you (and Fedora as whole) in MoFo case as well (just to make this clear). If there is any political reason, then it is Fedora/RH policy to oblige with upstream trademark terms and to keep our Firefox/Thunderbird/ XULRunner as close to the upstream as possible to save us work maintaining our patches and not go Iceweasel way. The only thing I would like to ask all participants in this thread is to keep things in the perspective ... Firefox is mostly working more or less well (yes, I know more than most participants in this thread how many bugs there are present). If you really want to help, may I suggest those 1400 abrt bugs? I would really really welcome any help anybody can spare, and I am willing to share freely whatever experience (and tools) I have in dealing with them. Best, MatÄj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mcepl<at>ceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC Q: Is vi an easy editor to learn, is it intuitive? A: Yes, some of us think so. But most people think that we are crazy. -- vi FAQ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
