On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (kevin@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29) > * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic > and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_tools > (nirik, 20:38:06) > * ACTION: : will defer systemd to f15 release to give more time to fix > small issues and docs and general polish. (nirik, 21:12:43) > * ACTION: notting will look at what's required to flip the default in > f14 (notting, 21:13:44) Nice move. So, we closed all blocker bugs, we worked through the vast majority of other bugs. I dealt with almost all issues raised in Bill's list, only few small issues left. While there are some bugs open, we did our homework. I was kept in the impression during the last week that these are the criteria to get systemd into F14. But what happens? Out of nowhere completely new criteria are created, and used to bring this project down. Why do we have the blocker bugs scheme if it apparently is irrelevant for final decisions? This is a really unfriendly move: I cannot win a game where the moment the game nears it ends completely new rules are created. Quite frankly, this is a recipe to piss people off, not to make people love developing for Fedora. Yes, I am very disappointed, Fedora. It's also nice to not even bother to ping me for the FESCO discussion. This all reads like a page from the book "How to piss people off and scare them away in 7 days". You make up new rules, and then don't bother to invite the folks mostky affected when you apply them. Oh, and next time, if you guys plan a move like that, then please do it a couple of weeks earlier, so that I can find funnier things to do then make you folks happy, since that's apparently not possible. Everybody has a different idea of what Fedora should be, but mine is definitely not one where people with negative energy make the rules and then win by them. There's something seriously wrong with the Fedora development process, folks. And with you, FESCO. You excelled in erratic behaviour, not in steering engineering. Lennart (Well, and I guess this will create a flamefest, but I won't reply to the thread.) -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel