Hi, 2010/9/15 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (kevin@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29) >> * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic >> and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_tools >> (nirik, 20:38:06) >> * ACTION: : will defer systemd to f15 release to give more time to fix >> small issues and docs and general polish. (nirik, 21:12:43) >> * ACTION: notting will look at what's required to flip the default in >> f14 (notting, 21:13:44) > > Nice move. > > So, we closed all blocker bugs, we worked through the vast majority of > other bugs. I dealt with almost all issues raised in Bill's list, only > few small issues left. While there are some bugs open, we did our > homework. I was kept in the impression during the last week that these > are the criteria to get systemd into F14. But what happens? Out of > nowhere completely new criteria are created, and used to bring this > project down. > > Why do we have the blocker bugs scheme if it apparently is irrelevant > for final decisions? > > This is a really unfriendly move: I cannot win a game where the moment the > game nears it ends completely new rules are created. Quite frankly, this > is a recipe to piss people off, not to make people love developing for > Fedora. Yes, I am very disappointed, Fedora. > > It's also nice to not even bother to ping me for the FESCO > discussion. This all reads like a page from the book "How to piss people > off and scare them away in 7 days". You make up new rules, and then > don't bother to invite the folks mostky affected when you apply them. > > Oh, and next time, if you guys plan a move like that, then please do it > a couple of weeks earlier, so that I can find funnier things to do then > make you folks happy, since that's apparently not possible. > > Everybody has a different idea of what Fedora should be, but mine is > definitely not one where people with negative energy make the rules and > then win by them. > > There's something seriously wrong with the Fedora development > process, folks. And with you, FESCO. You excelled in erratic behaviour, > not in steering engineering. > > Lennart > > (Well, and I guess this will create a flamefest, but I won't reply > to the thread.) Any chances to keep systemd in F14 repo? I would like to continue to test it. Regards, Michal -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
