Adam Williamson wrote: > for clarity - no, there's nothing magic about five releases ago. Five > was a Random Rhetorical Number. :) I don't know the last time we had a > major init system change, whenever it was, I wasn't around. You actually guessed the correct number. Upstart was introduced in Fedora 9 (Fedora 8 used the old SysVInit), so exactly the "last five releases" at Fedora 14's release time, i.e. Fedora 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13, were using it. :-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel