On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:14 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > The intent is not to do so in the final release, AIUI. We're only > > keeping it around during pre-release, so that if we decide we need to > > fall back to upstart for final release, it's easy to do. As far as I > > know, the plan is to decide later (presumably after beta) which one > > we're going with, and dump the other. > > > > So the alpha and beta will be tested in a configuration that the final > release will not? Hmm, I'd say 'not really, no' (unless we decide to fall back to upstart). For Alpha and Beta, upstart packages are still present in the repos and non-obsoleted, but unless you explicitly remove systemd-sysvinit and install upstart-sysvinit, they aren't used in any way. systemd is the init system that is used for boot. We don't have to make any change at all to any systemd (or upstart) code to remove upstart entirely; we just have to adjust some dependencies (in fact, we make them simpler), a process which happens all the time for orphans and which we're fairly practiced at by now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel