On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:32:42 -0400 Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/24/2010 08:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> Having to support multiple boot paths for the system, making > >> everyone who gets odd bugs filed against kernel, dracut, plymouth, > >> etc. triage them isn't exactly an 'easy fix' - it *adds* > >> complication to both paths. > > > > Right. In fact, I think we're supporting way too many deprecated > > alternatives for way too long, e.g. when will the old legacy > > "network" service which has been deprecated for ages finally be > > gone? > > > > Of course it makes sense to keep deprecated stuff around when it's > > needed to make things work, e.g. HAL is still needed for KDE right > > now (but that might already be resolved by F15 since work on new u* > > Solid backends is going strong upstream, also thanks to Fedora > > developers from Red Hat Czech), but I don't see anything requiring > > e.g. the old "network" to stay around. > > Isn't "network" needed for people who don't run NetworkManager? > > For the longest time, NM only worked predictably for logged-in users, > which made "network" service a requirement for servers with static > IPs and such. It's still needed for folks who have a bridging setup. Hopefully soon NM will handle that case, but AFAIK it does not yet. kevin
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