On 08/23/2010 08:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>>> I know its been discussed in the past but there's been reasons not to >>>> drop a default MTA but now that cronie (the last actual dependency) >>>> has support for logging to system logs is there any reason to include >>>> an MTA by default for F-14? >>> >>> A bit late to consider for F-14 imo (I'd argue something like should in >>> place and testable by or near feature freeze), F-15 is doable. >> >> Test what? That no MTA is present? >> >> I'd say we should stop arguing forever and just do it. > > What's the benefit of having no default MTA at all? Is it that Desktop > users don't care about MTAs being installed? what about those of us who > care more about server installations than Desktop? Even the web page proposing its deletion acknowledges that "The presence of a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) like sendmail has long been the de facto standard." Indeed it has: the ability to send mail from a program has been an entitlement for as long as UNIX has been around. In comparison with this, the benefit is very feeble: "One less required package in the critical path, and we clear the way for removing the MTA from the default install." Andrew. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel