On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Haley <aph@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/23/2010 08:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know its been discussed in the past but there's been reasons not to >>>>> drop a default MTA but now that cronie (the last actual dependency) >>>>> has support for logging to system logs is there any reason to include >>>>> an MTA by default for F-14? >>>> >>>> A bit late to consider for F-14 imo (I'd argue something like should in >>>> place and testable by or near feature freeze), F-15 is doable. >>> >>> Test what? That no MTA is present? >>> >>> I'd say we should stop arguing forever and just do it. >> >> What's the benefit of having no default MTA at all? Is it that Desktop >> users don't care about MTAs being installed? what about those of us who >> care more about server installations than Desktop? > > Even the web page proposing its deletion acknowledges that "The > presence of a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) like sendmail has long been > the de facto standard." Indeed it has: the ability to send mail from > a program has been an entitlement for as long as UNIX has been around. > In comparison with this, the benefit is very feeble: "One less > required package in the critical path, and we clear the way for > removing the MTA from the default install." Removing it doesn't stop applications in unix from sending mail! Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel