On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.08.10 17:31, David Malcolm (dmalcolm@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > 20:07:05 <dmalcolm> nirik: hence F15, I think > > > > 20:07:11 <mclasen> nirik/adamw: I know lennart was working on a bugfix > > > > release of systemd todasy > > > > 20:07:45 <nirik> dmalcolm: yeah, no shame in moving it out a release... > > > > 20:07:49 <adamw> yeah, we're going to need one to fix the 100% CPU usage bug > > > > at a minimum. > > > > Likewise, in the above fragment, both nirik and I were discussing the > > DebugPythonStacks feature, whereas mclasen and adamw were talking about > > systemd, I believe. > > David, thanks for the clarifications! Much appreciated! > > Matthew, I think you need to choose your examples more > carefully. This is funny. ;-) I really don't want to get drawn into this, but here goes... >From my recollection of Matthew's email (I've already deleted most of this thread), it looked like he took care to isolate those PythonDebugStacks parts of the discussion from the parts discussing systemd, and that he had highlighted other parts of the discussion that _did_ pertain to systemd. But I could be misremembering; in any case, please give Matthew the benefit of the doubt here. With my former "QA architect" hat on: please do have a test day for systemd, and try to cover a broad range of different uses and use cases: with a change this deep, it's the things you're not expecting that cause the "interesting" problems, alas. I think a test day should also help identify what experienced Fedora users expect from their services framework, and ameliorate some communication difficulties here (in particular, catering to the sysadmin persona - you do use personae in your designs, right?). The "mere" act of writing test cases for a piece of software often turns up interesting issues to do with what the scope of a project is, and differences in expectation between different stakeholders. (This thread is already too long, though) Hope this is helpful. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
