Sven Lankes wrote: > I for one have decided that I'm going to stop contributing if the > 'Stable Update Vision' is going to be implemented as currently > discussed. If the powers that be are going to stop maintainers from > issuing updates that are not security or bugfix updates then fedora will > have turned into a distro that I'm not interested in. I'm also considering this, but I don't really know what distro I could switch to. The Fedora way was a unique way, there's really no other distribution working that way. That's why I have such strong feeling, I see something unique being taken away from under us, in favor of something that's just a boring clone of Ubuntu. In fact, that vision reads like a precise description of Ubuntu. I think that Fedora is going to lose many contributors and users over those changes. Those that remain will be drawn to third-party repositories providing updates, just like Ubuntu's PPAs. (They may or may not use the repos.fedorapeople.org infrastructure for that, depending on how well you manage to make it not suck. Right now, it offers little to no benefits over infrastructure people can come up with themselves.) Maintainers will push their stuff to Rawhide and to a third-party repository for releases and just not support it in releases at all, closing all the bugs as RAWHIDE. (We cannot realistically expect maintainers to backport all the bug fixes when upstream no longer supports the branch that shipped in the given Fedora release, and in fact most of the proponents of conservative updates don't even want them to do that, they often want only "critical" bugs fixed, or only bugs explicitly filed in our Bugzilla (which is already not feasible for some packages by backports only).) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel