Martin Sourada wrote: > There are also bazillion distributions out there who are on the bleeding > edge. But none that have the current stuff without blatant breakage as updates to the stable releases, and ship the exciting but disruptive changes in new releases every 6 months, while still supporting the previous release for 7 more months from that point. There's a balance between bleeding edge and conservativeness. Fedora was exactly where I, and many other people, who chose Fedora exactly for that reason (just look at some of the user feedback, e.g. Adam Williamson's poll on the Fedora Forums, some mails to the kde@xxxxxxxxxx ML etc., I'm not inventing that "many other people" part), wanted it to be on that balance (except for some odd packages like Firefox and OO.o where the maintainers did their own thing, basically already following what the new unwanted policy will be). Now new policies are tilting the scale way too far towards conservativeness, to the point where we don't distinguish us anymore from other distributions; Rawhide, on the other hand, is way too far on the bleeding edge end to be usable for daily use, and this is exactly the issue with other "bleeding edge" distributions as well. Not all new upstream versions are equal. New versions with major changes, especially feature regressions, are NOT suitable as updates to a stable work environment. Version upgrades WITHOUT such breakage ARE suitable, and actually WANTED as updates. For example, people EXPECT to be able to use the latest Firefox (and have complained about the Firefox maintainer being too conservative with his updates), the latest KDE (and have praised KDE SIG for being so effective at pushing new versions) etc. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel