On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 13:19 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > How can we fix this? Step 1 is to realize/admit there is a problem. You've tactfully done that. Step 2 is to gather data and knowledge. That doesn't appear to be happening in these posts. On the data side, it would be very interesting to go back to each one of those slips and identify the component(s) that caused the slip and then question the individuals behind them to find out what happened. Then take that information (share it with the list ?) and see what can be concluded (as a group ?) On the knowledge side, I highly recommend Code Complete and Writing Solid Code. Some of the replies in this thread demonstrate a lack of basic understanding of the issues at hand. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel