On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 21:33 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 12.08.10 13:19, Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a > > single slip listed twice). Lets not yell, lets not flame war, lets not > > point fingers. How can we fix this? It's clearly not one group or one > > individual or we'd just go talk to them. This is a collective failure. > > > > Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more > > than half of a full release cycle. > > While I side with mclasen here and believe that it is a strength of > Fedora that we take the liberty to let cycles slip rather then > compromise quality, I want to mention one thing: on opensuse the "base" > system has a different schedule then the rest of the OS. i.e. the > kernel, gcc, glibc and the low-level tools freeze first, while > everything else may be hacked on a couple of weeks more. Maybe that's > something to adopt for Fedora as well? It's worth pointing out that it's actually quite rare for blocker bugs to be in those components. Kernel more than any of the others, but that is almost always down to the bits of graphics driver that live in the kernel these days. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
