On 08/12/2010 03:03 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:19:29 -0500, > Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more >> than half of a full release cycle. >> >> Thoughts? > > One thing I have noticed is people landing big changes (such as python and > systemd) that break things for a while, delay a lot of other testing. So > that when the bigger changes get fixed up, other bugs get unhidden with little > time to react. > > I'd like to see the big changes land a lot earlier, maybe a month before > the branch, so that by the branch most things should be easily testable. +1 Perhaps our feature proposals need a better risk assessment. ie. "Will this change create system-wide impact? Will reverting it be difficult?" If the answer is yes to either of those questions, we should require (either): 1. Testing in an external repo until a some stability is demonstrated. 2. Early merge with an early risk assessment / rollback. Nathaniel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel