Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

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On Wed, 14.07.10 17:01, James Antill (james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 22:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Wed, 14.07.10 16:03, James Antill (james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Or you could just parse inittab and notice when runlevel 3 was listed. 
> > > > > Keeps everything nice and compatible, including existing manuals and 
> > > > > books, and sysadmin knowledge.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this really such a biggie? I mean Upstart ignores inittab too, the
> > > > only option it still takes into account is this default runlevel and
> > > > that only via some shell hackery.
> > > > 
> > > > We go one step further and also ignore that one line.
> > > 
> > >  That one line is quite important though. I'm also not sure what you
> > > gain by not parsing it. 
> > 
> > Well, the way things are designed is that we read compat configuration
> > only if no native configuration for this particular item
> > exists. Example: we read /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon if
> > /lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service does not exist. This is
> > followed everywhere else too.
> 
>  Sure, and for service configuration that seems fine.
> 
> > Now, if we translate the same logic to inittab we'd have to check
> > /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target first, and if that doesn't exist
> > fallback to /etc/inittab.
> 
>  But your runlevel is not a service configuration, so I see no reason
> why you couldn't say "if there is an 'id:blah:' line in inittab that's
> authoritative .... if not, use default".

Well, I want people to use the new thing and have the new logic
auhtoritative. I don't want to keep the old cruft around forever.

Also, where do you suggest I put this message?

Lennart

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