2010/7/3 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx>: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:40:57 +0200, Kevin wrote: > >> >> It is part of the Fedora Objectives: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives >> to "be on the leading edge of free and open source technology". Given that, >> it is completely unacceptable to not upgrade software to the current release >> in Rawhide (within a reasonable timeframe, of course we're all not available >> 24/7) unless there's a really good reason to (in which case that reason >> ought to be given in the bug report asking for the upgrade!), especially >> when upstream is asking for their software to be upgraded. >> >> So the maintainer's decision (assuming there even WAS a decision rather than >> just lack of time or worse) goes against Fedora's Objectives and so it's not >> OK to say that it should just get accepted. >> >> We should really be more aggressive about allowing to upgrade other people's >> packages in Rawhide if the maintainers don't do it within a reasonable >> timeframe and don't document any good reason not to do the upgrade. > > Ridiculous. :( The way you've phrased it doesn't meet the "be excellent" > guidelines IMO. There is nothing "completely unacceptable" or "against > Fedora's objectives" with skipping certain upstream releases. And I hope > that nobody will become "more aggressive" or try to force me (or other > packagers) to upgrade packages. I don't want anyone among the Fedora > contributors to be "aggressive" in any way when talking to me or when > trying to make me do something. > > As a user or fellow packager [or upstream developer], you are free to > suggest upgrades in a bugzilla ticket. And hopefully you evaluate the new > release to examine it for changes compared with the previous release in > Fedora, so you can give a rationale for your upgrade request. If you meet > resistance, you'll have to live with that or return with a competent > mediator. > I'm fully agree with you, but there are some maintainers who don't respond on bugzilla at all or for a very long time. They may be still active on koji, but they don't respond even when you attach a patch/spec to solve known issues or request for co-maintainership. Obviously, they cannot be defined as nonresponsive package maintainers, so we have no process/policy to treat those packages. I filled dozens of reports in bugzilla to request for updating long unmaintained packages(more than 3 years) several months ago, no packager respond yet. Regards. Chen Lei -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
