On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:40:57 +0200, Kevin wrote: > Thomas Janssen wrote: > > You have to accept the maintainers decision to not update it yet? What > > do you think will happen if everyone builds the wishes he has and > > breaks a lot of stuff with it? Anarchy? We have processes for that in > > Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeKnox/AWOL_Maintainers > > It is part of the Fedora Objectives: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives > to "be on the leading edge of free and open source technology". Given that, > it is completely unacceptable to not upgrade software to the current release > in Rawhide (within a reasonable timeframe, of course we're all not available > 24/7) unless there's a really good reason to (in which case that reason > ought to be given in the bug report asking for the upgrade!), especially > when upstream is asking for their software to be upgraded. > > So the maintainer's decision (assuming there even WAS a decision rather than > just lack of time or worse) goes against Fedora's Objectives and so it's not > OK to say that it should just get accepted. > > We should really be more aggressive about allowing to upgrade other people's > packages in Rawhide if the maintainers don't do it within a reasonable > timeframe and don't document any good reason not to do the upgrade. Ridiculous. :( The way you've phrased it doesn't meet the "be excellent" guidelines IMO. There is nothing "completely unacceptable" or "against Fedora's objectives" with skipping certain upstream releases. And I hope that nobody will become "more aggressive" or try to force me (or other packagers) to upgrade packages. I don't want anyone among the Fedora contributors to be "aggressive" in any way when talking to me or when trying to make me do something. As a user or fellow packager [or upstream developer], you are free to suggest upgrades in a bugzilla ticket. And hopefully you evaluate the new release to examine it for changes compared with the previous release in Fedora, so you can give a rationale for your upgrade request. If you meet resistance, you'll have to live with that or return with a competent mediator. If you demonstrate interest in the packaged software (and I truly hope more people will do that), become a maintainer of the packages you want to upgrade and collaborate with existing maintainers. It *can* be a great deal of extra fun to see multiple people work on the same packages, push fixes and updates, communicate with upstream, and experience progress. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
