Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

[Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayat@xxxxxxxx>]

Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 05/10/2010 3:18:06 PM +0450:

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:33 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
  

Dne 10.5.2010 11:26, drago01 napsal(a):
    

To have stuff just work.
      

Go to http://senate.gov/ and ask your congressman to fix it. Otherwise 
(for example if you don't have your congressman because you are not a 
U.S. citizen), you can also try to move Red Hat's headquarters outside 
of U.S. (although I am not sure, it would be enough, you would probably 
ask its biggest clients to move).
    

That's the wrong argument. We all know why we _can't_ make it just work,
but that doesn't excuse us. Sorry to take a well-worn analogy, but if
two guys are trying to sell you cars, and one doesn't have an engine,
would the fact that the guy selling the car with no engine has a *really
good and inarguable reason* why it doesn't have an engine make you buy
that car? Hell no. You'd buy the car with the engine.

Just because we have a *really good reason* we can't ship this stuff
doesn't mean we are excused from the fact that it's a distinct negative
for the use of our operating system as a general-purpose desktop
operating system.
  

Just my 0.2 cents in this regard: well, we have a car without engine, and a suitable engine is built somewhere which we can't use. But, I wonder why there is nobody to pick our car and the engine and sell the car with engine to people who don't want to do that themselves?
RPMFusion is a very well-known engine builder! While there were/are some efforts to ship our car with its engine, there is no well-known Fedora remix which contains the extra stuff (it is probably because most of the current users have already adopted with using rpmfusion if they want it). If we can come up with enough people to provide and maintain a Fedora remix for awhile, it can become well-known and something which is always there, so we can point beginners to that one instead of other distros if they want such a distro.
We (I and a very few others) are going to create a remix, but our current target users are a bit more restricted (mostly because of lack of manpower) (Also we are currently targeting a DVD installation media rather than live media).  But if there are some other interested people out there, we can go for the mentioned remix (and we will probably base our custom remix on that).

Good luck,
Hedayat

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