On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:49:23 -0400, Orcan wrote: > >> At that point you break a cult. xmms still has a stubbornly loyal fan > >> base (just go to #fedora and start talking about it). > > > > Why don't they take care of http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xmms and > > additional tickets that have been "hidden" by EOL scripts already? > > > > That's because #fedora is a channel for users. Not many users can fix bugs. Users -- particulary those from "a stubbornly loyal fan base" as you call it -- could and should become bug triagers and testers and give good support to the "xmms*" packages in bugzilla. > I consider the number of open bugs pretty low for a classic software. > And from the magnitude of the bug ID numbers, I can tell that xmms is > still popular. Doubtful. It's still installed by some people, because web pages (including very old HOWTOs/FAQs) refer to it. In other words, it's still being advertised in questionable ways, e.g. as one way to add MP3 support to Fedora/RHL or as an app similar to Winamp. There are users, who give it a try (and some of them may have used it before), but it would be adventurous to conclude that they belong to a user base that would make the packages "popular". It could also be that those bug reporters don't return, and they won't tell in bugzilla. It's likely that once they see themselves forced to look into a different audio player, they won't use XMMS ever again. One can only hope that with the majority of default installs, a different audio player is available and won't give Fedora users a false impression. Such as that XMMS would be considered sort of a "standard" audio solution for Fedora. > Why are they not fixed by the xmms maintainers? I don't know, and I > wonder about that too. There is a pattern -- not limited to xmms*. Package owners don't respond in bugzilla, bug reporters don't add any other comment, EOL scripts eventually close the tickets, package owners and bug reporters don't reopen the tickets. What do they do? Do they live with work-arounds? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/525277 reported on 2009-09-23 - it's the PulseAudio volume decrease problem that affects xmms-pulse, too. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
