On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010 02:09:45 -0400, Orcan wrote: > >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Chen Lei wrote: >> > >> > As I mentoned below, some packges need update to the >> > lastest release badly to get rid of gtk+ 1.2. And some packages can safely >> > retire from fedora, e.g. xmms. >> > >> >> At that point you break a cult. xmms still has a stubbornly loyal fan >> base (just go to #fedora and start talking about it). > > Why don't they take care of http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xmms and > additional tickets that have been "hidden" by EOL scripts already? > That's because #fedora is a channel for users. Not many users can fix bugs. I consider the number of open bugs pretty low for a classic software. And from the magnitude of the bug ID numbers, I can tell that xmms is still popular. Why are they not fixed by the xmms maintainers? I don't know, and I wonder about that too. >> Unlike almost >> everything else, xmms never fails to work. > > A smiley missing? > Here :) >> We don't want to get people >> upset, do we? > > Well, seems to become a common trend in Fedora-land to do that more often. > I support Chen Lei here, as offering a growing number of out-dated apps > (both with regard to their maintenance/development state, look'n'feel, and > unhandled problem reports) is neither beneficial to Fedora nor to the app > itself. Those app users, who are left, will abandon the app [silently!] when > they face problems, especially if those problems won't be fixed in Fedora. > As has been mentioned, XMMS has various successors such as XMMS2 and > Audacious. > Fanaticism is a subjective concept. I am sure if it gets dropped, some people will start using other applications, some will resort to a 3rd party repo for xmms. Another subjective topic is taste; there is no point in debating about taste. I like the look'n'feel of gtk applications better than gtk2 ones. Other people might disagree. The reason why we still have xmms is a cumulative sum of subjective decisions. The benefit of it to Fedora is, well, people can exercise their freedom. :) Orcan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
