On 05/03/2010 11:12 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 18:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >> Except karma requirements (which were in force due to the critical path >> process) did NOT prevent this particular regression, nor would a "1 week >> minimum in testing" requirement have prevented it (the update spent 8 days >> in testing). That process DOES NOT WORK. It just adds extra bureaucracy and >> delays the fix for the regression. (But thankfully, direct stable pushes are >> still possible for KDE packages, which allowed us to do one to fix this >> regression quickly.) >> > > You are definitely missing the forest for the trees here. So do you: The karma stuff will never work and if then only in corner-cases. In probably the overwhelming majority of cases, all karma does is adding to Fedora's bureaucracy, without being actually functional. > In the > proposals I've seen, the was no mandate that an update spend a week in > testing, provided it got enough karma before that. If the issue at hand > is so egregious to need a push ASAP, then there should be plenty of > people on hand to snag the update from koji and provide you the > necessary karma nearly immediately. You are presuming a bug * affects many people * is reproducable by many people * has "user visible" impacts * users are volunteering to provide feedback These presumptions are all wrong and do not apply. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
