On 03/15/2010 01:40 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:07:53 +0100 > Kevin Kofler<kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> On 03/14/2010 10:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>>> Not a very credible one, given that those users are happily using >>>> Fedora as it is now! >>> >>> Can we drop the absolutes which are clearly not true? Some users >>> clearly are not. >> >> Yet they haven't left over it. So why would that suddenly change? > > Because the situation worsened dramatically recently. Did it? Your observation doesn't match with mine: * There have always been prematurely shipped, immature and dysfunctional packages causing user-side malfunctions. * The kernel has always not worked somewhere. * KDE and perl packaging policies have not changed. * There have always been broken package deps in updates. * Fedora doesn't ship updated DVDs/CDs. ... What has changed is * the people in FPB and FESCO * the number of packages in Fedora. * the amount of bureaucracy. * the packages being affected by "instability". ... Where I have to agree with you * I am perceiving an increasing unwillingness of maintainers to fix bugs/defects/malfunctions of released packages. * I am perceiving an increasingly low quality package submissions and of low quality package reviews. ... Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel