On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 15:31:26 -0600, Matthew Woehlke <mw_triad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Ubuntu's method satisfies more users, that is why they use Ubuntu. > People¹ use Fedora because it is leading edge. If we sacrifice that > identity, then people¹ won't have any reason to use Fedora over Ubuntu. > > (¹not everyone, true, but we've shown that there /are/ such people) But are there more that use it because it is free or more ammeniable to new contributors or perhaps other reasons? > I am curious why the folks on the 'stable' side think that throwing out > one of Fedora's distinguishing qualities to make us look more like > Ubuntu will give us more users. Usually you don't win people over by > imitating the competition, but by offering something unique. It's not just more users, it might be more contributors, particularly contributors that aren't going to be packagers. (I am in the process of trying to encourage some people with experience in project management to take a look at Fedora. If the Fedora Desktop fails for any of them that does take a look, it's going to be a lost opportunity for Fedora to pick up some help in an area we are lacking in help.) > Maybe by chasing "stable" you will find more users, but I think you will > lose adventurous users in the doing. I also think that the sort of user > you are likely to pi^H^Hirritate are the ones more likely to contribute, > and the ones you are going to attract are more likely to be > uncontributing leaches. There are plenty of ways to be adventerous in Fedora. I think the project can more onus on the tinkerer types and provide a more usable Desktop for everyone. If you want to tinker, there is rawhide, the branched prerelease (a lot of the time), grabbing selective packages from either, rebuilding SRPMS locally and probably other ways. What's better about this, is you can can selectively tinker with what you are interested in, rather than having to tinker with lots of things you might not be and at inopportune times. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel